Stephan Livera Podcast · Nov 13, 2026 · 46:04
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Robert Warren, Head of Comms at Elektron Energy, says Bitcoin mining pools do centralize something, but it is mainly control of block templates, not the power to reorg the chain. He treats FPPS as an insurance product: pools take variance and charge a fee, and a miner who doesn't like the deal can switch to a fallback pool almost immediately.
Stephan and Rob also walk through AntPool white-labeling, why a run of Foundry or SpiderPool blocks is usually just variance, why listed miners are leasing sites to AI and HPC, and why Elektron is staying bitcoin-first. Rob argues network security barely changes as public hashrate rotates to private operators, and that hashrate is still going up and to the right.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:31 Do Mining Pools Threaten Bitcoin?
04:20 On-Chain Data Hides Miner Incentives
06:40 Why Miners Wouldn't Follow BIP 110
08:06 Miners Don't Control Hashrate's Value
10:56 If a Few Pools Find Most Blocks?
12:51 FPPS Is an Insurance Product
17:14 AntPool, White Labels, and Censorship
21:36 Censorship and Other Risks
22:36 Why Selfish Mining Stays Theoretical
24:51 A Run of Blocks Isn't Centralization
29:01 Can Miners Fix Pool Centralization?
29:17 DATUM
33:13 MARA, Ocean, and DMND on Templates
34:08 Why Public Miners Are Pivoting to AI
35:45 Why Elektron Is Staying Bitcoin-First
37:50 What Happens to Hashrate and Security?
39:36 A Rotation to Private Miners?
42:47 Will Hashrate Be Higher in 10 Years?
44:47 Hashrate Heating and Home Miners
Show notes
Links:
Robert Warren on X: https://x.com/BikesandBitcoin
Elektron Energy on X: https://x.com/ElektronEnergy
Profit Maximization and Protocol Risk (Elektron thread): https://x.com/ElektronEnergy/status/2117293466338095389
Elektron Energy: https://elektronenergy.io
Episodes: Stephan Livera Podcast