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What if the problem isn’t that you haven’t found your purpose — but that you’re trying to find something that was never meant to be found?
In this episode, John sits down with Bill Burnett and Dave Evans, co-creators of Designing Your Life, to explore a radically relieving idea:
There is no final version of you.
Instead of chasing meaning, purpose, or fulfillment as a destination, Bill and Dave invite us to see life as a process of becoming — and meaning as something we practice daily, not achieve once.
This conversation is for anyone who feels behind, unfinished, or quietly exhausted from trying to “figure life out.”
You don’t need a breakthrough. You need a reframe.
🔗 Guest links
Website https://designingyour.life/
Join the Designing Your Life Newsletter https://designingyour.life/newsletter/
📚 Featured Book (Mentioned in Episode) https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Live-a-Meaningful-Life/Bill-Burnett/9781668084892
