Stop Chasing Pain · Aug 3, 2026 · 1:08:10
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What if the goal isn't to control life, but to become better at responding to it? In this episode of the Stop Chasing Pain Podcast, Dr. Perry welcomes back perception expert Dr. Beau Lotto to explore why life's nonlinear and unpredictable nature makes control an illusion. Beau explains the difference between control and agency mand how the curiosity, humility, and self-awareness we bring into each moment shape our perceptions, responses, relationships, and future.
Beau also introduces his new book, Becoming Evolvable, and the Evolvable.me platform, which uses neuroscience, psychology, and AI to help people see themselves more honestly and adapt more effectively. Together, Perry and Beau discuss why collaboration matters more than competition, how small shifts can transform our lives, and why becoming more evolvable begins with changing how we enter the present moment.
Link to Unlock Your Personal Evolution
Link to Book
Links to prior episodes:
SCP Podcast 188: An Adventure with Dr. Bea Lotto SCP Podcast Episode 217: Dr. Beau Lotto – Uncertainty and Perception