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Welcome, writers and book lovers. The Bleeders is a podcast about book writing and publishing.
Make sure you subscribe to the companion Substack: https://thebleeders.substack.com/welcome
Today’s guest is Brad Listi, author of
Be Brief and Tell Them Everything, host of the long-running
Otherppl podcast, and founder of the new literary learning platform Deep Dive. After decades in the business, Brad has a delightfully candid perspective on what it takes to build a writing career these days—and why talent and hard work are only part of the equation.
In this episode, Brad takes us through his publishing journey, from his MFA and selling his debut novel in his twenties to launching the influential literary community The Nervous Breakdown, building an audience through podcasting, and writing his latest book,
Be Brief and Tell Them Everything. We get into rejection, the myth that platform automatically translates into book sales, and the financial realities of being a writer.
Plus, Brad shares what 1,000 author interviews have taught him, why reading should be part of the job, and his unfiltered advice for writers trying to get published.
Subscribe to
Brad's Substack and listen to the
Otherppl podcast. Follow him on
Instagram @otherppl.podcast, and buy your copy of
Be Brief and Tell Them Everything on
Bookshop.org,
Amazon, or wherever books are sold!
Get your copy of Courtney's debut memoir Girl Gone Wild from Bookshop.org or Amazon.The Bleeders is hosted by Courtney Kocak. Follow her on
Instagram @courtneykocak and
Bluesky @courtneykocak.bsky.social. For more, check out her website
courtneykocak.com.
Courtney is teaching some upcoming classes you might be interested in:
