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The No Film School Podcast

The Art of Asking for Money for Indie Films feat. Madhouse Films

The No Film School Podcast · Jul 16, 2026 · 53:42

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Madhouse Films co-founders Katherine Romans and Charlie Traisman join GG Hawkins to explain how they built an independent production company from the ground up. They discuss using short films as their version of film school, raising project financing through relationship-building, approaching investors as creative partners, and transitioning from shorts to feature films. The conversation also explores cold outreach, fiscal sponsorship, balancing artistic ambition with financial realities, building durable producing partnerships, and why filmmakers must treat their projects like small businesses.

In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests Katherine Romans and Charlie Traisman discuss...


How Romans and Traisman’s longtime friendship developed into a creative and business partnership



Using short films to establish Madhouse Films’ voice, values, and community of collaborators



Why emerging producers should make projects before waiting for the perfect opportunity



Raising a flexible pool of financing while simultaneously developing and producing films



Identifying different investor profiles and understanding what each person wants from participating



Approaching investors as creative partners rather than treating fundraising as a transaction



Using fiscal sponsorship to accept tax-deductible donations for qualifying independent film projects



Reframing fundraising and relationship-building as part of a filmmaker’s creative practice



Why clear, direct financial asks are more effective than vague pitches



Learning from rejection and using each “no” to improve the next approach



How cold emails helped Madhouse build relationships with filmmakers they admired



Transitioning from short-film fundraising to feature-film financing, revenue participation, and ROI conversations



Giving filmmakers room to dream while establishing practical budget boundaries



Deciding which creative priorities are worth protecting and where compromises can be made



Maintaining trust, communication, and humor within a producing partnership



Why directors should act as entrepreneurs and actively help their producers find financing



Treating an independent film like a small business that must be continually pushed toward completion



Developing Madhouse Films’ new film fund and expanding what audiences consider a Madhouse project




Memorable Quotes:


“The whole process of raising and relationship building is extraordinarily fluid and nonlinear.”



“You don't want money from just anyone. You do want someone who's aligned with you because they're part of your team.”



“Because someone says no does not mean you stop asking. You just have to understand how to ask better.”



“If you're getting no's, it means you're putting yourself out there.”




Guests:


Katherine Romans



Charlie Traisman




Resources:


Madhouse Films



Madhouse Films on Instagram



Madhouse Films Newsletter



Fractured Atlas Fiscal Sponsorship




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