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School of War

The Rise of the Navy SEALs, with Ben Milligan

School of War · Jul 24, 2026 · 1:01:43

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Ben Milligan, a former U.S. Navy SEAL, Bronze Star recipient, and author of By Water Beneath the Walls: The Rise of the Navy SEALs, joins School of War to discuss the origins and evolution of one of America's most storied special operations forces. How did the Navy SEALs grow out of the Underwater Demolition Teams of World War II? What does it take to become a SEAL? How did the Vietnam War shape the institution into the force we know today? And what role should the SEALs play as the U.S. military shifts its focus from the war on terror to great power competition?

02:10 – Why Ben Became a SEAL

03:34 – Joining Before 9/11

05:17 – Inside BUD/S

09:17 – Who Makes It Through?

11:26 – What Elite Training Builds

14:29 – The Origins of the SEALs

23:18 – The Origins of UDT

27:10 – Korea Changes the Mission

38:06 – Birth of the SEALs

43:36 – Vietnam Transforms the SEALs

47:33 – The Capture-Kill Raid

49:50 – Lessons for the War on Terror

54:36 – Great Power Competition

56:13 – What Makes Special Operations "Special"?

59:31 – The Future of the SEALs

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