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The Nation Podcasts

The Amazing Movement Against Data Centers, plus How to be a Dissident / Start Making Sense

The Nation Podcasts · Sep 9, 2026 · 44:21

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Is the resistance to data centers a new kind of mass politics? David Wallace-Wells explains why the answer is “yes.” He’s a writer for The New York Times Opinion pages and author of the unforgettable book “The Uninhabitable Earth.”

Also: How to be a dissident in an age of fear – Ami Fields-Meyer has thought a lot about that. For starters: don’t start from scratch; don’t try to do it alone. Ami is co-author of the new book “On Courage.”



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