The Dr. Phil Podcast · Sep 23, 2026 · 45:24
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Two mothers who lost their children to filicide... and refused to let it be the end of the story. According to the FBI, approximately 500 children are killed by a parent every single year in the US. Nearly 10 a week. And most of the time, there were warning signs that courts and law enforcement ignored ... until it was too late. Hope Hooton warned family court repeatedly that her estranged husband was dangerous. The court still gave him unsupervised custody. In May 2024, he shot and killed their two children, 7-year-old Alec and 6-year-old Lydia, and turned the gun on himself. Hope responded by going to the Arizona State Capitol, and her bill, the Alec and Lydia Act, passed the House unanimously. Brandi Morey-Pols called law enforcement when her 6-year-old son Rowan didn't come home from a custody visit. She was told it was a civil matter. No Amber Alert. Three days later, Rowan and his father were found dead in a camper. She founded The Rowan Project and fought for the Rowan Act, expanding Amber Alert criteria in custody cases. Two women. Three dead children. One broken system, and the mothers who decided to fix it. May also bring in Judge Rosemarie Aquilina, who sees this pattern in her courtroom.
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