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What Fresh Hell: Parenting, Relationships, and Making Life Better, with Two Funny Moms

What Fresh Hell: Parenting, Relationships, and Making Life Better, with Two Funny Moms

Fresh Take: Dr. Özgür Bolat on the Real Science of Motivating Kids

What Fresh Hell: Parenting, Relationships, and Making Life Better, with Two Funny Moms · Aug 14, 2026 · 33:23

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We think of rewarding kids as a surefire way to get the behavior we want. But what if rewards mainly serve to underline our children's intrinsic drive to succeed? Dr. Özgür Bolat, education scientist and author of The Reward Trap: Why Rewards Backfire and the Real Science for Motivating Kids, explains why rewarding kids may actually undermine their motivation in the long run.

As Dr. Bolat explains, there's a difference between motivation and compliance. Rewards can get children to do something, but they don't necessarily create the ownership, engagement, or intrinsic motivation parents actually want.

In this episode, we discuss:


How rewards can change the way children view an activity



Hedonic adaptation and why rewards often need to get bigger to have the same effect


The connection between rewards, praise, and controlling parenting


How autonomy-enhancing parenting differs from control


Why family chores can help children develop a sense of responsibility and prosocial values


Mastery orientation vs. performance orientation, and how each affects children's anxiety and motivation


Why focusing too heavily on grades, competition, and achievement can create performance anxiety


How parents can encourage curiosity and help kids find motivation even in subjects they don't initially enjoy


The role of flow in learning and why children become deeply engaged when a task matches their skill level


Why differentiated learning matters—and what happens when work is too easy or too difficult


How rewards and competition in school can contribute to learned helplessness


Why understanding big concepts can actually help children remember facts and information


Dr. Bolat's PEACE model for building connection with children


How getting curious about the reason behind a child's behavior can reveal what they actually need


Why a homework problem may be a symptom of a much bigger issue around fear, judgment, or connection



Here's where you can find Dr. Bolat:


https://ozgurbolat.co.uk/

LinkedIn

@dr.ozgurbolat on IG

https://ozgurbolat.substack.com/

Buy THE REWARD TRAP: https://bookshop.org/a/12099/9798893961805


What Fresh Hell is co-hosted by Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables.

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