Stories and Stanza · Oct 17, 2026 · 49:20
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What if you didn’t have to be a good poet to heal through poetry?
In this episode of Stories and Stanza, I’m joined by Margaret Bryden, a licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor, author and founder of Sage Insight Therapy. Margaret shares the idea at the heart of her book, How I Understand It: A Bad Poet’s Guide to Mental Health & Resilience, and why she calls it “bad poetry”: writing that is honest rather than impressive, accessible rather than perfect, and free of the inner critic.
We talk about how poetry can open a door to pain that’s hard to say out loud, why it can sometimes reach what journaling and talk therapy can’t, and how writing a few raw lines can turn the “tornado” in your head into something you can look at. Margaret also reads one of her poems, “A Bird’s Eye View”, and leaves us with a simple five-minute writing exercise for anyone who feels intimidated by poetry.
In this conversation:
Chapters
00:00 Teaser: Poetry and Humanity
00:39 Welcome and Introductions
01:48 Margaret’s Therapy Background
03:59 Why She Wrote the Book
09:14 Writing From Pain
11:37 Reading “A Bird’s Eye View”
14:54 What Bad Poetry Really Means
27:11 Unlearning Shame Through Writing
32:28 A Simple Poetry Exercise
34:52 Poetry Versus Journaling and Therapy
43:24 Poetry in an AI World
About Margaret Bryden
Margaret Bryden is a licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor, author and founder of Sage Insight Therapy. She works with individuals and couples navigating anxiety, depression, trauma, addiction and life transitions. Through her work, she helps people understand themselves in a way that leads to real connection, clarity and resilience.
Get the book: How I Understand It: A Bad Poet’s Guide to Mental Health & Resilience
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H2FPMTS9
Learn more about the book and Margaret’s work:
https://www.sageinsighttherapy.com/thebook
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