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Why People Leave Jobs (It’s Not the Money) | Dr. Paul White

Conversations with Sekani · Sep 28, 2026 · 20:16

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Dr. Paul White is a psychologist, speaker, and best-selling author who has spent decades helping organizations build healthier, more meaningful workplace relationships. He is the co-author of The 5 Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace, written alongside Dr. Gary Chapman (author of The 5 Love Languages).


Together, their work has helped hundreds of thousands of people understand that feeling genuinely valued — not just recognized — is one of the biggest drivers of engagement, fulfillment, and success at work. Dr. White has worked with organizations including NASA, Microsoft, PepsiCo, Starbucks, and the Mayo Clinic.


In this practical and insightful conversation, Dr. White shares:

• Who he was in his 20s and the path into counseling psychology

• The drive for academic success and validation through achievement

• Why people leave jobs more often because they don’t feel appreciated than for money

• The deep human need to feel valued and connected

• How workplace expectations have changed across generations

• The critical difference between appreciation and recognition

• What the healthiest workplace cultures have in common

• Practical ways leaders and colleagues can make people feel genuinely valued


If you’re in your 20s starting your career, already feeling undervalued at work, or wanting to build better relationships in any team, this episode delivers clear, research-backed wisdom.


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Connect with Paul White

Website:https://www.appreciationatwork.com/

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-white-ph-d-3178276/

Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/appreciationatwork/



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Chapters


0:00 - Intro & Welcome Dr. Paul White

1:40 - Life in His 20s: Counseling Path and Academic Drive

8:15 - Seeking Validation Through Achievement

15:30 - Why People Leave Jobs (It’s Not Primarily Money)

23:10 - The Deep Need to Feel Valued and Connected

31:45 - How Generational Expectations of Work Have Changed

40:20 - Appreciation vs. Recognition: The Critical Difference

48:50 - What the Healthiest Workplace Cultures Share

57:15 - Practical Ways to Make People Feel Genuinely Valued

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