The ROAR Podcast · Aug 20, 2026 · 47:08
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Alex Heriard-Dubreuil didn't set out to work in sports. He trained as a civil engineer in Paris, joined Merrill Lynch in the late nineties to invest in real estate across Europe, and spent a decade in London watching an asset class transform from a passive, collect-the-rent business into an actively managed one. In 2008 he moved to the real estate arm of the Arnault family office — the family behind LVMH — where he spent the next seventeen years, thirteen of them based in Hong Kong, building luxury-anchored mixed-use districts across Asia, North America, and Europe. What that platform taught him is the throughline of his entire career: real estate stops being about cash flow the moment you start paying attention to who actually uses the building.
In this conversation with host Adam Grossman, Alex explains what mixed-use development genuinely means — and why it is not simply stacking an office on a hotel on a retail box. He walks through the metrics that decide whether a project pencils, from development yield margin to cap rates to the inflation and construction-cost pressures that kill otherwise sound deals. He makes the case for sports and entertainment real estate as an emerging asset class in its own right, explains why downtown revitalization has become the central North American opportunity, and describes the work of aligning team owners, city governments, developers, and capital around a single long-term vision. And he closes with the standard he applies to every deal: a project should still be thriving in thirty years, and it should deliver two returns — one to investors, and one to the community it sits in.
00:00 Welcome and introductions
00:59 Paris, civil engineering, and a first job at Merrill Lynch
03:17 Seventeen years with LVMH: Hong Kong, luxury, and mixed-use
06:14 Why real estate: a tangible asset and a people business
08:10 When real estate was passive
10:41 What "mixed-use" actually means
12:39 The metrics: development yield, cap rates
15:20 Geopolitics, curiosity, and the case for a global career
18:48 Has cross-border investing gotten easier in twenty-seven years?
21:18 What you can only learn on the ground
23:20 Asia after 2008: building for the luxury consumer
26:55 Retail's evolution and the speed of change in China
31:11 Thematic investing: tailwinds, data centers, and differentiation
33:47 Why Seregh — sports, entertainment, and an emerging asset class
37:10 Aligning team owners, cities, and capital
41:01 Stakeholders who want in but need a guide
46:53 What makes a good investment: two returns, not one
49:04 Closing thoughts