Mackenzie Shirilla’s Crash, Luigi’s Suppressed Evidence, and Incarceration as Intervention, with Ginny Burton

Positively Legal hosts Mark Eiglarsh and Jonna Spilbor join the show to discuss their week as practicing criminal defense attorneys, Jonna’s disturbing tale of a fatal pothole in New York City, the real application of “presumption of innocence,” the major ruling on evidence in the Luigi Mangione state trial, why this ruling is actually a victory for due process, why the evidence that is admissible is more than enough to show guilt, why press passes were issued to the vile Mangione fans that call themselves “The Mangionistas,” Mark and Jonna then discuss the new Netflix documentary “The Crash,” if Mackenzie Shirilla deserved her prison sentence for driving her car 100mph into a wall killing her boyfriend and friend, Shirilla’s apparent lack of remorse, Ginny Burton, author of “The Gabriel Plan” and the O-UT Program, joins Mark and Jonna to discuss her incredible story of growing up in a drug and crime-riddled family, her multiple prison stints, why being arrested was the intervention she needed to turn her life around, her incredible work on prison and policy reform, how her O-UT program, a holistic lived experience behavior change program focused on addressing underlying causes of homelessness, incarceration, and addiction, is turning lives around, and more. 

 

Mark Eiglarsh: https://www.eiglarshlaw.com

 

Jonna Spilbor: https://jonnaspilbor.com

 

Ginny Burton: https://www.vginnyburton.com

 

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