MasterMined: A Behavioral & Mental Health Podcast
MasterMined: A Behavioral & Mental Health Podcast · Jun 9, 2026 · 43:57
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What does it take to move behavioral healthcare from the margins into the mainstream?
Mark Scrivner and Jeff Skillen sit down with Dr. Joseph Lee, President and CEO of the Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation, for a powerful conversation about stigma, community, innovation, and the future of addiction treatment at NAATP National 2026.
Dr. Lee shares how Betty Ford's legacy continues to shape the industry, why belonging may be the most overlooked element of recovery, and how Hazelden Betty Ford is leveraging data, AI, research, and standardized care to advance truly personalized treatment. From the role of recovery communities to the promise of emerging therapies, this episode explores how behavioral healthcare can maintain its humanity while embracing innovation, and why people get better when they feel seen, valued, and connected.
Key Moments
00:56 – The story behind Betty Ford's commemorative White House stamp and recovery legacy
03:26 – Why breaking stigma requires more than storytelling
05:07 – How training at Duke and Johns Hopkins shaped Dr. Lee's leadership philosophy
10:20 – The evolution of Hazelden and the power of recovery communities
15:22 – Why standardized care is the foundation for personalized treatment
20:07 – Building workforce pipelines through innovative education programs
25:06 – Measuring "changing hearts" in addiction recovery
31:04 – Why the traditional medical model struggles with chronic behavioral health conditions
35:14 – The opportunities and risks of AI in behavioral healthcare
41:44 – The surprising lesson a young patient taught about community and connection
Learn More & Connect Show Notes + Resources: https://snapshotinteractive.com/mastermined
Connect with Joseph Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-lee-m-d-0063b931/ | https://www.hazeldenbettyford.org/
Connect with Mark Scrivner: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/ | https://snapshot.agency/health
Connect with Jeff Skillen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-skillen-199507/ | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com
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Episodes: MasterMined: A Behavioral & Mental Health Podcast