Joy First® · Sep 30, 2026 · 53:00
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There's a phrase I use about colour all the time: once you see it, you can't un-see it.
And while this is super true, and reflected back to us daily by our students and clients - actually the most world-shifting version of that in my life wasn't about colour psychology, it was about the colour of my skin.
Today's episode, Joy First decision #8 - is about the decision I made to commit to a lifetime of understanding and doing my part to stand up against racism and systems of oppression.... and to understanding my place in them as a white woman. This commitment came in 2020, after the murder of George Floyd, when a friend invited me into Dr. Lynne Maureen Hurdle's programme, On the Matter of Race.
I stayed in that room, every other week (with some seasonal breaks), for over five years. And it fundamentally shifted how I see the world now.
In this episode I share about the white bubble I grew up in, and never questioned, about the "good white person checklist" I walked into 'the work' looking ofr, the the family myth about Cherokee ancestry I went digging into (and the far more complicated truth I found), and why when it comes to people being oppressed and marginalized, there is no neutral.
In fact, it's one of the deepest sources of joy I've found in my life - as it's broken me open, and clarified my own mission and purpose in ways that make it matter1000x more. I'm not an expert or a teacher, I will always be a student... but if you're curious please join me in this exploration.
In this episode:
• Why niceness and politeness can keep us complicit, and the difference between niceness and kindness
• "Am I unsafe, or just uncomfortable?" (the question that changes everything)
• Holding complexity: how we can be both harmed and part of the harm
• Why facing this work unlocks joy rather than draining it
• On the Matter of Race with Dr. Lynne Maureen Hurdle: https://theconflictcloser.com/matter-of-race
• Nice White Ladies by Jessie Daniels: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57007984-nice-white-ladies
• Xander Golden's Thread: https://www.threads.com/share/BAYmpoeP1k/
• The "Dealing With Whiteness" series on my previous podcast, Joy, Colour, Impact & Dogs:
on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/joy-colour-impact-dogs/id1697112722
on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5EsgLUsJrJWebrNrxNPHG1
If this episode stirred something in you, share it with someone you'd like to invite into the work. See you next time for Joy First Decision #9.
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