Ted Gibson & Jason Backe: Why Being Booked & Busy Isn't Actually Success

Ted Gibson and Jason Backe are not just celebrity hairdressers — they're the blueprint. Between styling Angelina Jolie, Anne Hathaway, Lupita Nyong'o, and gracing the pages of every major publication, these two built something the industry had never seen before. And they're not done.

In this episode, Ted and Jason get real about what it actually takes to build a lasting career in beauty, why being booked and busy isn't the flex we think it is, and how their new venture Ted Gibson Beauty Wellness Science is shifting the conversation from external beauty to wellness from the inside out.

They also break down their upcoming Convergence Beauty Wellness Science Summit — a first-of-its-kind two-day event bringing consumers and professionals into the same room in Palm Springs, CA on May 3rd & 4th, 2026.

This one is for every beauty professional who's ever undercharged, overworked, or wondered if there's more.

✨ Ted Gibson – Co-Founder of Ted Gibson Beauty Wellness Science, Celebrity Hairstylist & TV Personality

Based in Palm Springs, CA

IG: @tedgibson

Website: www.tedgibson.com

✨ Jason Backe – Co-Founder of Ted Gibson Beauty Wellness Science, Celebrity Colorist & Educator

Based in Palm Springs, CA

IG: @jasonbacke

Website: www.jasonbacke.com

✨ Convergence Beauty Wellness Science Summit

May 3 & 4, 2026 — Palm Springs, CA

IG: @convergencebws

Website: www.tedgibson.com/pages/convergence

TIME STAMPS:

00:00 – Intro

00:40 – Welcome & Setting the Stage

01:11 – Kim Reads Their Accomplishments

04:55 – When Did It Become Bigger Than Just Hair?

07:19 – We Don't Find Hair, Hair Finds Us

09:08 – Life & Business Partners: Who's the Visionary?

12:01 – Opposites Who Share the Same Values

13:28 – How They Navigate Disagreements & The Power of Listening

16:05 – Is the Industry Evolving in the Right Direction?

17:29 – From Salon Owners to Renting a Chair

20:08 – Ted's Barber School Days & The Angelina Jolie Story

23:26 – AD: Virtue Lab

25:56 – When Did Your Name Have Value?

26:53 – The PR Meeting That Changed Everything

29:00 – What Led to Ted Gibson Beauty Wellness Science

31:59 – Breaking Down Ascension

35:19 – The Vision Behind Convergence Summit

39:35 – What to Expect at Convergence

45:07 – The Trade Off Game

48:10 – Raise Your Prices, Work Less, Make More

49:32 – Nothing Lasts Forever: Reinvent or Go Dark

52:44 – How to Find Ted & Jason

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