They Came For Me When I Was 13 w/ Brigitte Gabriel — Making the Argument with Nick Freitas

Brigette Gabriel knows the threat of Islamic conquest better than almost any American. She lived it from the time she was a small child until she finally escaped as a teenager. She eventually made it to the United States as a journalist. But it wasn’t until 9/11 that she had to explain to her young daughter, the same thing that her father had to explain to her that she became an activist and ardent defender of the United States against Islam.

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00:00 – How Lebanon, once the Middle East's only Christian-majority country, was destroyed from within

04:25 – At 13, she dressed for her own death the night her town was to be attacked

06:36 – After 9/11, politicians rushed to mosques to say Islam is peaceful

10:46 – Why Lebanon's Christians didn't see the threat until it was too late

17:10 – Why other Arab countries refuse to take in Palestinian refugees

18:52 – Why she says Muslims identify with their religion before their country

21:09 – How higher birth rates changed who ran Lebanon's government

23:22 – Why she says America won't talk about Islamic ideology directly

29:04 – Why the far left and Islamists keep teaming up

35:56 – Why public schools teach a history parents wouldn't recognize

41:21 – She says Sharia courts already operate in the United States

45:03 – Why getting informed isn't enough without taking action

47:29 – Why joining an organization multiplies what one person can do

This is Episode 591 of Making the Argument, published October 1, 2026.
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