The Evolution 2.0 Podcast explores the intersection of art, technology, business, biology and spirituality. Discover new trends in evolution that change the way we think about everything. Host Perry Marshall is author of Evolution 2.0 and founded the Evolution 2.0 Technology Prize, a $10 million quest for the missing link between the information age and life itself. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Sep 28, 2026 · 23:54
Physics always obeys equations. Biology does not. Sometimes... but not always! There is scarcely any formula in biology that is 100% true. In biology, there is no precise…
Aug 5, 2026 · 1:00:53
I met Rev. Prof. Andrew G. Gosler at a dinner at Oxford a few years ago — he's an ornithologist who spent 30 years in the woods studying birds, and he completely lit up the room.…
Jan 27, 2026 · 53:51
Anthony Hilb lives with asthma and chronic respiratory issues. In May 2025, he experienced a medical crisis that caused him to briefly lose consciousness and have a near-death…
Sep 18, 2025 · 1:48:41
Jay Cross interviews me about my new paper, The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Biological Sciences (co-authored with Sy Garte and Stuart Kauffman.) Together we…
Sep 15, 2025 · 1:09:46
Perry describes a series of life-changing "thin place" experiences that shifted his reality. This was presented to Adam Safron's Sapience group, followed by a guided meditation…
Aug 13, 2025 · 52:29
Sy Garte's book, Beyond Evolution, is written for the person who is trying to reconcile their deep yearnings for meaning and significance with the longstanding scientific dogma…
Aug 12, 2025 · 46:19
What happens when researchers from competing scientific worldviews sit down for an honest conversation? In this dialogue, three thinkers—exploring Neo-Darwinism, Third Way…
Jun 20, 2025 · 46:19
Andrew Briggs started to write the book Human Flourishing just before COVID and then the world went mad. Since then, the world has gotten even madder and many people are…
Jun 11, 2025 · 45:17
Derek Dearden from the UK and Perry Marshall discuss how to hold deeply held beliefs while also making space for people with widely differing views. Hosted on Acast. See…
May 9, 2025 · 50:28
Tim Howard interviews me and Sy Garte about our new paper with Stuart Kauffman, The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Biological Sciences . Join us for a…
Apr 2, 2025 · 59:03
Two of my favorite scientists, Michael Levin and Azra Raza with Aastha Jain Simes, put their heads together in this provocative and touching interview. Azra describes the…
Dec 21, 2024 · 1:05:20
She's 86, yet she looks like she's in her 60s. After 35 years of Myelodysplastic Syndrome, she is still beating the odds every day. In our conversation, she explains her radical…
Aug 19, 2024 · 1:05:26
Edward Kelly is a neuroscientist whose research overturns the current popular definition of the mind. We had a fantastic conversation about his non-traditional path in scientific…
Aug 7, 2024 · 1:00:45
Why are important conversations so difficult, and why is curiosity the greatest virtue? Dov Baron from British Columbia describes the emotional source code rules that govern our…
Jul 29, 2024 · 1:02:42
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May 28, 2024 · 18:52
Perry Marshall spoke at the Society for Brain Mapping and Therapeutics 21st annual conference in Los Angeles, 16 March 2024. He describes how outdated textbook evolution is…
Apr 23, 2024 · 1:18:08
EXACTLY 20 years ago this week, I flew to China to see my brother Bryan. We got into an argument on a bus (a story I’ve told 1000 times). He was bailing on his missionary career…
Apr 10, 2024 · 1:03:09
Well-known biologist and author Sy Garte, author of the new book “Science and Faith in Harmony” joins Perry. They explore the alignment between science and faith and probe…
Jan 3, 2024 · 1:06:39
"The Open Source Tissue Search Engine". This "Tissue Search Engine" will allow us to detect the early evolution of cancer -- THE KEY to reversing it. And this is why we should…
Oct 27, 2023 · 1:49:53
What does quantum physics have to do with business decision-making, art, and AI? Perry Marshall spoke to Brian Kurtz’s Titans group in Connecticut in April and covered a dizzying…
Sep 1, 2023 · 37:32
Bob Regnerus digs into the real story behind Azra Raza's day long fireside chat in Vancouver, British Columbia Sept 23 & 24, 2023. Full information at evo2.org/vancouver . Hosted…
Aug 30, 2023 · 1:08:11
The overwhelming success of genetics and molecular biology in the 1970s had an unfortunate side effect. DNA became the 'be-all' and 'end-all' of biology, and “the selfish gene”…
Jul 28, 2023 · 49:36
Bryan Trilli is a serial entrepreneur who owns a company called Optimized Marketing that trains machine learning programmers to write better code. In this interview, he…
Jul 18, 2023 · 38:10
Occam's Razor says the simplest explanation is the best. While its application has many subtleties, it tells us that the best model of theory is the one that's most elegant and…
Apr 24, 2023 · 52:54
Scott Ransom’s mom grounded him from the nonfiction section of the library so that he would not be corrupted by evolutionary ideas from godless secular scientists. But the…
Mar 20, 2023 · 38:52
Did you know that 99% of the sounds in nature are at frequencies we cannot hear? Karen Bakker opens up an entire universe of sounds and communication between elephants, whales,…
Mar 1, 2023 · 47:00
For many years, we humans have bench-marked ourselves against machines without even realizing it. Many scientists believe that humans really are just machines. Nick Chatrath…
Feb 23, 2023 · 1:17:19
Paul Nelson of the Discovery Institute blogged about my interview with Joana Xavier lamenting that we did not fully endorse intelligent design. This created a perfect opportunity…
Feb 14, 2023 · 54:52
Joe Riggio’s wife, Nancy, was given a maximum of 10 years to live in her cancer diagnosis. She lived for 17 years, most of them in a very active adventurous lifestyle. They spent…
Dec 1, 2022 · 55:19
Reversing Cancer needs your help. Some very specific help. . . I’ve invited Jenny Davis to talk to me about her struggles in the academic and research communities that vividly…
Nov 2, 2022 · 1:09:01
Karen Wong has a longtime interest in origins and evolution and we discuss what happens when you shift the definition of evolution. Old definition: Changes in gene frequencies…
Sep 14, 2022 · 57:50
Joana Xavier is a rising star in the Origin of Life field. She is a researcher at University College London. She recently authored a paper with Stuart Kauffman on autocatalytic…
May 16, 2022 · 1:04:05
The book Evolution 2.0 devotes two pages to the subject of cancer and it wasn't until two years after the book was published that this fact received any attention: It is not…
May 9, 2022 · 1:13:51
Two leading pioneers in the field of cognition discuss the sea change that is underway in consciousness and evolution: Michael Levin is 10 years ahead of multiple fields in…
May 2, 2022 · 19:25
Why is there evil and suffering? Why is Old Testament Biblegod so mean and nasty? Why doesn’t God stop the injustice? Does God even have a right to create an evolutionary…
Apr 25, 2022 · 1:03:05
I sat down with John Maddox who has a keen interest in information, computing, biology and evolution. John cuts right to the chase and hammers on the central issues that make…
Apr 18, 2022 · 45:24
Science describes things by quantifying them - weighing, measuring, and counting - but there is a dimension of being that goes beyond all these things. Science, despite its…
Apr 11, 2022 · 51:14
Little do most people know that water appears to have remarkable properties that your middle school science textbooks told you nothing about, including memory and a “fourth…
Apr 5, 2022 · 54:07
Richard Jacobs of the Finding Genius Podcast has written a new book called Finding Genius: Understanding Cancer: 30 Questions, 70 Geniuses, 200+ Amazing Insights in which he…
Mar 15, 2022 · 51:28
December 21, 2021, is the 50th anniversary of President Richard Nixon declaring that cancer was going to be ended by 1976. Many media outlets are celebrating progress when, in…
Jan 3, 2022 · 38:16
John Lennox is an Oxford mathematician who is the author of the new book Cosmic Chemistry . He's written many books about the relationship between science and religion and has…
Nov 29, 2021 · 50:51
In September 2021, a dozen entrepreneurs gathered in Chicago and had a seminal 3-day discussion and commissioning for solving the world’s most thorny, intractable issues. Bob…
Nov 24, 2021 · 53:21
It is seldom mentioned that Charles Darwin's Origin of Species failed to deliver what the title promised. The mechanisms in his book only deliver microevolution but not…
Nov 24, 2021 · 49:44
Doru Paul of Cornell University is one of those very rare people who has both treated over 10,000 cancer patients as their doctor and simultaneously holds a kaleidoscopic view of…
Nov 24, 2021 · 13:29
Today I don’t have a guest, but what I do have is a really excellent PDF submitted to me by a Perry Marshall. Perry, has been a really successful marketer, I’ve been following…
Sep 21, 2021 · 58:21
Psychic phenomena have been meticulously documented in hundreds of controlled studies since the 1980s. Mainstream science publications resist acknowledging this but the quality…
Sep 21, 2021 · 53:30
There are very very few people who can slice through the jargon of molecular biology and explain how cells talk to each other in a way that a high school student can understand.…
Sep 17, 2021 · 47:02
A new book by MIT Press stresses the urgency of approaching cancer from new angles. Some are completely new. Others are 100 years old and never given the attention they deserve.…
Sep 15, 2021 · 55:17
Jenny Davis is a professional athlete from Scotland who found out she had bowel cancer 9 months ago. She tells her very personal story of chemotherapy treatments, introspection,…
Aug 18, 2021 · 1:03:00
John Sonmez interviews Perry Marshall and they discuss why it’s impossible for computers in their current form to become conscious; how modern mathematics speaks in a new way to…
Jul 19, 2021 · 42:07
Rich Jacobs indulged his fascination with technology by starting a podcast called Finding Genius. He didn’t know that it would end up taking him into hundreds of specialties in…
Jul 9, 2021 · 42:05
Eric Kuelker Ph.D. R.Psych. discusses reliable but little-known research linking cancer and heart disease to traumatic life events and stress. It turns out that psychotherapy and…
Jun 15, 2021 · 44:12
Rob Berkley left this earth in December 2019 as a result of cancer. 58. Rob was THE most empathic and warm-hearted individual in the entire marketing space (I’m not…
May 3, 2021 · 50:39
Mark Chenoweth is a theologian with a particular interest in St. Maximus the Confessor (700 AD) and St. Gregory of Nyssa (400 AD) who wrote about life on earth as a goal-directed…
Apr 30, 2021 · 56:19
How does a psychology prof find herself writing a book on cancer evolution? And what does this have to do with the Zombie Apocalypse? Today’s conversation is with Dr. Athena…
Apr 23, 2021 · 1:44:15
Sam Devis is a former pastor who experienced a faith deconversion a couple of years ago similar to that of my brother, Bryan. After reading Evolution 2.0, Sam and I got together…
Apr 20, 2021 · 1:01:42
Einstein’s theory of relativity overturned Newtonian physics in the early 1900s. Nevertheless, “Newtonian” thinking has remained firmly entrenched in science. Certainly, all…
Apr 19, 2021 · 1:04:08
Today if you’re diagnosed with Stage 3 or Stage 4 cancer, your chances of surviving are no better than if you lived in 1930. But your chances are 100 times better when catch it…
Dec 31, 2020 · 38:42
This is a unique show in the Finding Genius series. Podcast founder and host Richard Jacobs cites Perry Marshall’s ideas as the impetus for starting the Finding Genius podcast.…
Oct 13, 2020 · 1:10:46
Perry Marshall was invited to Notre Dame Business School to present at a masters level class on new trends in medicine and biology. This talk canvases a spectrum of issues from…
Sep 14, 2020 · 43:09
Perry Marshall discusses avenues of research that may uncover the mystery of what makes life alive. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jun 26, 2020 · 30:31
In 2019, I interviewed Joel Salatin, advocate of alternate farming. Our conversation prompted me to predict for the decade 2020 - 2029 that laws would be overturned making local…
Apr 10, 2020 · 53:31
Dr. Michael Levin of Tufts University crosses many disciplines: computer science, embryo development, cancer and tumor research; limb regeneration; evolutionary theory and neural…
Mar 31, 2020 · 53:32
Azra Raza treated cancer patients for 30 years, but not even the loss of her Oncologist husband could provoke her to write a book. It took the death of her daughter’s dearest 22…
Mar 25, 2020 · 1:27:01
James Tour, a renowned nanochemist at Rice University, has been openly critical of Origin Of Life literature for being too optimistic, too sanguine and at times misleading. See…
Feb 27, 2020 · 48:24
Addy Pross is a Chemist at Ben Gurion University in Israel. He's author of "What is Life: How Chemistry Becomes Biology" by Oxford University Press. Here we enjoyed a great…
Jan 2, 2020 · 1:16:49
Lynn Margulis, who died in 2012, was a piercing luminary in the history of evolutionary theory. She overturned the money changer's tables in the temple of science and infuriated…
Dec 28, 2019 · 51:35
William Miller tells his story of being seduced into evolutionary science by a mysterious female named Sue. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dec 26, 2019 · 48:46
Michael Behe infuriated traditional Darwinists with his concept of irreducible complexity more than 20 years ago. He argues instead for Intelligent Design. But what does ID…
Dec 18, 2019 · 1:09:14
Joel Salatin is a "Christian Libertarian Environmentalist Capitalist Lunatic" who is re-inventing the way food is grown, distributed and consumed. Here we examine how current…
Nov 7, 2019 · 1:06:26
Michael Heiser, whose podcast “The Naked Bible” got five million downloads this year, studied Hebrew at the University of Wisconsin and was confronted with a dilemma: How do you…
Oct 30, 2019 · 34:56
How is it that good scientific theories can take 200 years to catch on while bad theories hang on for a century...even when empirical evidence that could settle the issue is…
Oct 29, 2019 · 1:03:57
What does Jordan Peterson really believe about religion? Is “the Intellectual Dark Web” just another 2018ism? Are archetypes enough to save the next generation? Esther O’Reilly…
Oct 3, 2019 · 52:54
Kevin Freeman, a global financial analyst commissioned by the Pentagon, is one of the world’s leading experts on the issues of Economic Warfare and Financial Terrorism. Here,…
Sep 25, 2019 · 30:26
Some science teachers avoid or minimize evolution. Others ram it down their students' throats. Is there another way? Michael Reiss, who is both an evolutionary biologist and…
Aug 20, 2019 · 53:28
Sy Garte is author of The Works of His Hands: A Scientist's Journey from Atheism to Faith. He is a PhD biologist who has published over 200 papers and worked as a grant reviewer…
Aug 6, 2019 · 57:50
Daniel White Hodge confronts racism in America as seen through the eyes of a black man in a mixed race marriage, communication arts professor and hip hop music. Using Charles…
Aug 6, 2019 · 59:41
What do you think about God when your newborn son dies in your arms? Khaldoun Sweis gives a candid telling of his life’s traumatic moment. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy…
Aug 1, 2019 · 1:47:04
“When Perry’s brother quit his missionary job and abandoned Christian faith, this plunged Perry into a deep crisis of questioning everything himself. And he decided to put…
Jul 23, 2019 · 1:57:08
Why is Old Testament bible god so mean and nasty? Why is nature so ruthless and unforgiving? Where do we get our ideas about a kinder, gentler society? Perry Marshall and Paul…
Jul 18, 2019 · 59:18
At the Royal Society in Great Britain on May 31, 2019, Perry Marshall announced the Evolution 2.0 Prize was being doubled to $10M. Present in the room were Denis Noble, Fellow of…
Jul 18, 2019 · 39:30
Denis Noble, one of the judges for the Evolution 2.0 Prize, discusses in this interview why we can't just put lipstick on a pig - why the public needs to be aware that…
Jun 4, 2019 · 3:23:01
Perry responds to the 11-page review of Evolution 2.0 in CRSQ, the Creation Research Society Quarterly, written by Royal Truman: https://creationresearch.org/wp-conte... Zach…
May 28, 2019 · 1:00:15
Brenda Dunne was a scientist at Princeton University's Engineering Anomalies Research Lab for 28 years, where she and her colleague Robert Jahn performed extensive experiments on…
May 21, 2019 · 55:52
Iconoclast, polymath, renegade and world-class chemist, Steve Benner engineered a new breed of DNA with 8 nucleotide options instead of four. This exponentially increases its…
May 1, 2019 · 31:02
While working in plant research at Cambridge, Rupert Sheldrake became dissatisfied with existing materialistic theories of science. This led him to develop his theory of morphic…
Apr 24, 2019 · 1:14:13
Frank Visser became a friend and colleague of Ken Wilbur in the 1980s and wrote a book about his work. In this conversation, we discuss Frank’s departure from Ken Wilbur’s…
Apr 19, 2019 · 1:15:11
Michael Behe's "Darwin Devolves" asks: Has Darwin solved the design problem in biology? Behe says absolutely not, and backs his position with detailed examples. Furthermore,…
Apr 11, 2019 · 1:02:14
Two world class physicists from Oxford, together with philosophy professor Hans Halvorson from Princeton, integrate faith and science in their new book "It Keeps Me Seeking."…
Feb 11, 2019 · 54:27
Former president of Google China, Kai-Fu Lee, describes the rapid acceleration of artificial intelligence (AI) technology in China. He discusses what AI is and is not capable of…
Jan 1, 2019 · 50:52
The opening shot of my book Evolution 2.0 is an argument between me and my brother about evolution. Bryan had been a missionary in China, but in four years he went from…
Dec 28, 2018 · 52:30
Symbiotic Earth conveys one of the most important biographies of the last 50 years. It’s no exaggeration to say that Lynn Margulis’ contribution to science is in the same league…
Dec 11, 2018 · 58:41
Wynand De Beer has written a beautiful book From Logos to Bios. He links diverse ideas from the ancient Greeks and their ideas about mathematics and life with recent evolutionary…
Nov 20, 2018 · 51:13
Many have claimed atheism was only incidental to the operation of communism under Lenin, Stalin and the old Soviet Union. Victoria Smolkin's new book "A Sacred Space is Never…
Nov 6, 2018 · 57:28
Podcaster Joe Rogan sat down with Elon Musk. They discussed AI & Evolution. (Full interview at https://youtu.be/ycPr5-27vSI .) Entrepreneur Tim Berthold mentioned the Elon…
Oct 31, 2018 · 1:02:53
I just did a rock-em-sock-em interview with Audie Cashion of World Peace Center. We dug into… The business secrets of blue-green algae Why you gotta pay attention to the pendulum…
Oct 2, 2018 · 1:03:06
For a century, the belief was that genetic information built organisms, never the other way around. A new paper by Denis Noble definitively proves otherwise. The paper is called…
Sep 10, 2018 · 1:00:54
David Quammen's book "The Tangled Tree: A New History of Life" tells the story of evolution through the eyes of Carl Woese, a not-terribly-famous but truly ingenious…
Sep 10, 2018 · 54:51
Claude Shannon made our modern digital world possible. He wrote a landmark paper called "The Mathematical Theory of Communication" which gave birth to computer networks, cell…
Sep 10, 2018 · 55:21
Did people in the Middle Ages believe the Earth was flat? Were Christians the enemy of Copernicus? Are science and religion enemies? Dr. Ted Davis, professor of the history of…
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