Did the Father Forsake the Son on the Cross? (HP+ Vault)
Curiously Kaitlyn · Dec 30, 2025 · 39:52
Curiously Kaitlyn · Dec 30, 2025 · 39:52
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Jesus cries out, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" How can the Father forsake the Son if they're the same person in the Trinity? Was the Trinity severed? Kaitlyn has thoughts on this important theological debate—and reveals how this debate is part of why she became a theologian!
0:00 - Intro
0:37 - Theme Song
1:20 - Show Starts
2:40 - Kaitlyn's Origin Story
12:50 - Penal Substitutionary Atonement
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21:18 - Relational, Trinitarian God
32:10 - The Father Grieving the Son
39:37 - Outro Song
Resources:
Forsaken: The Trinity on the Cross, and Why it Matters by Thomas H. McCall: https://a.co/d/1PvcWvZ
Delighting in the Trinity: An Introduction to the Christian Faith by Michael Reeves: https://a.co/d/ikSTCLB
The Crucified God by Jürgen Moltmann: https://a.co/d/9LVdAw3
