From Aug 2025: Narosha Murugan, Ph.D. & the Physics of Living Systems & Quantum Biology

Originally released in August 2025, this conversation is being re-released as part of a selection of guest interviews from the podcast archive.

My guest today is Dr. Nirosha Murugan, a Tier II Canada Research Chair in Biophysics and Assistant Professor at Wilfrid Laurier University. Dr. Murugan explores how physics shapes biological processes, including pioneering research into biophotons, the ultraweak photon emissions produced by living systems.

We discuss biophotons, mitochondria, cellular communication, regeneration, neurodevelopment, and the emerging field of quantum biology, including what these ideas might mean for autism and the future of medicine. The conversation explores what we know, what remains speculative, and what the physical foundations of life might reveal about how living systems communicate, develop, and change.

The Murugan Lab https://themuruganlab.com

Publications https://themuruganlab.com/publications/

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0:00 Dr. Nirosha Murugan

2:16 ads

9:45 Path into Quantum Biology & Biophysics role on organisms; Bioelectricity

13:13 Opsins versus Chromophores; Proteins; Photoreceptors & Light

17:37 The Body Glows & Emits Light; Photomultipliers & Measuring Biophotons

20:37 The Role of Light & Development

21:04 Seed Germination & Human Development (neurodevelopment) Analogy

23:54 Environmental Light & Impact on Health

25:34 Mother's of the original Autistic kids from Leo Kanner

26:46 Light type exposure & Autism

29:50 Mitochondria, Light, & Energy

31:28 Neurocognitive (Dementias) rates & Aging; Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS), Electrons

35:35 Microtubules & Cell Function; Reverse Engineer Oxidative Phosphorylation- ATPase, Electron Transport Chain & TCA Cycle

37:14 Cytochrome C Oxidase, Water, Energy, Four Red Light Chromophores- Heme a, a3, CuA, & CuB, vitamin D receptors

42:11 Tryptophan, Tublin, Microtubules

46:49 The Role of Water & Energy in Cells

48:59 Nature's Impact on Health; Get Outside (!), Oxygen

51:46 Midbrain (mesencephalon), Dopamine, Norepinephrine; Serotonin and Raphe

53:36 Serotonin & Development (remember the sensory map !)

55:11 Biophotons & Seasonal changes; Depression, Pale Autistics

58:02 Cancer & Biophoton Signals

59:50 Biophotons & Coherence, Energy, & Molecular Signals

01:01:53 Psychedelics, Depression, Anxiety, Consciousness

01:05:20 Mitochondria, Memory & Information: What is Information?

01:12:27 Future Direction in Quantum Biology and Medicine; Silos

01:13:36 Ryan's journey into Quantum Biology & Practices, Reversing Autoimmune Diseases