The two ordinary cops are former Northern Territory Police Officers Remote Sergeant Ben Schultz and Detective Sergeant Damien Barbe. With over 25 years experience Ben and Damo share stories from their time in the job. Follow along through the laughter, anger and tears that come with the rigours of Policing Australia’s last frontier.
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Nov 13, 2026 · 6:27
Damo and Schultzy are back together in Brisbane for a short episode after attending the Queensland Police Academy graduation for Intake 3 of 2026. We congratulate all the new…
Nov 6, 2026 · 43:57
Schultzy and Damo are back together for another episode of Two Ordinary Cops! This week, the boys reflect on the incredible bravery recognised at the Wieambilla Police Bravery…
Oct 30, 2026 · 10:34
This week, Schultzy goes solo for a short episode, bringing listeners up to date with what's happening behind the scenes at Two Ordinary Cops. Following an extraordinary evening…
Oct 23, 2026 · 58:50
Welcome back to Two Ordinary Cops! In this episode, Damo and Schultzy are joined by former NSW Police forensic officer and author Esther McKay, who takes us back to the beginning…
Oct 16, 2026 · 55:07
One minute it's a routine job, the next you're fighting for your life. In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy discuss the recent stabbing of a Queensland police…
Oct 9, 2026 · 1:08:05
Welcome back to another episode of Two Ordinary Cops! This week, Damo and Schultzy kick things off with some fantastic listener feedback, shout-outs and a reminder of why talking…
Oct 2, 2026 · 48:23
This week we hand the episode over to you, answering questions and sharing a few stories along the way. We start on the serious side after a listener reaches out following a…
Sep 25, 2026 · 37:02
A listener question gets Damo and Schultzy talking about something every cop should understand — who’s got your back when things go wrong? In this episode, the boys look at the…
Sep 18, 2026 · 1:25:23
Welcome back to the Two Ordinary Cops for the fourth and final part of our interview with Roger Mayer APM. In this episode, things get personal as Roger remembers his former NSW…
Sep 11, 2026 · 1:12:42
Welcome back to the Two Ordinary Cops as we continue our conversation with Roger Mayer APM. In this episode, Roger takes us from the NT Police to the NSW Police, where the action…
Sep 4, 2026 · 58:36
Welcome back to Part Two with Roger Mayer APM. In Episode 139, Roger takes us back to what it was really like joining the Northern Territory Police in the late 1970s and early…
Aug 28, 2026 · 1:04:52
This episode is an absolute blast. Roger Mayer not only tells you of his upbringing and how it turned him into the police officer and man he became. But it explains dedication…
Aug 21, 2026 · 59:54
What does a major murder investigation really look like from the inside? This week, Damo takes us back to Operation Nina, the investigation into the 2011 murder of Ray Niceforo…
Aug 14, 2026 · 40:34
This week on Two Ordinary Cops, Schultzy and Damo take listeners behind the police cordon following the recent tragic murder-suicide in Charleville. We break down what actually…
Aug 7, 2026 · 1:36:22
Former Queensland Police detective and undercover operative Todd Maguire shares the story behind the badge. What starts as a conversation about policing quickly becomes something…
Jul 31, 2026 · 19:16
A routine welfare check can become a life-or-death situation in an instant—and this week we discuss the tragic shooting of Queensland Police Constable Jordan May and the…
Jul 24, 2026 · 1:07:05
What happens when police officers from opposite sides of the world sit down and compare notes? As it turns out, far more is shared than separates them. This week, Schultzy and…
Jul 17, 2026 · 47:20
When Queensland Police Dog Squad Officer in Charge Joel Davidson first joined the police at just 19 years old, he never imagined the journey ahead. From proactively hunting…
Jul 10, 2026 · 54:49
In Episode 131, Schultzy and Damo tackle one of the biggest questions facing modern policing: at what point does doing your job become a crime? Using the recent conviction of NSW…
Jul 3, 2026 · 1:22:49
Before Two Ordinary Cops ever had a name, one of the titles we seriously considered was The Real Northern Territory. It only seems fitting that 130 episodes later, we finally…
Jun 26, 2026 · 1:01:52
The conversation around Australia's Special Forces has never been more relevant. After watching the powerful documentary Bravery and Betrayal, Schultzy and Damo take an honest…
Jun 19, 2026 · 1:38:14
In this powerful episode, the boys sit down with Queensland policing legend Keith Banks. From working deep undercover and helping build Queensland’s early tactical policing…
Jun 12, 2026 · 1:04:46
In this special episode, Schultzy's partner, Miriam Leask, joins the podcast to share her firsthand account of living through the devastating Christchurch earthquakes. From the…
Jun 5, 2026 · 49:22
This week, Schultzy and Damo reflect on their experience at the Queensland Police Union Council Conference and the incredible people they met along the way. From frontline…
May 29, 2026 · 31:23
In this special live episode, Schultzy and Damo take the stage at the Queensland Police Union Council Conference to share their experiences from policing in some of the toughest…
May 22, 2026 · 29:01
In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Schultzy and Damo sit down with exercise physiologist Jack Woods from to discuss the powerful connection between exercise, routine and…
May 15, 2026 · 47:31
For 23 years, Lyn Kowalski worked behind the scenes in the Queensland Police Service — but as you’ll hear in this episode, the job was anything but “just admin.” From homicide…
May 8, 2026 · 44:55
In this episode, we come to you live from the National Suicide Prevention Conference, where we sit down with Nick White and Krista Hawke to talk about what’s really missing in…
May 1, 2026 · 34:26
In this episode, we reflect on the tragic events out of Alice Springs and the loss of Kumunjayi Little Baby. We break down what actually happens during a major police…
Apr 24, 2026 · 27:14
In this episode, we break down the reality behind the Northern Territory’s liquor laws—why they exist, how they differ from place to place, and what it’s actually like policing…
Apr 17, 2026 · 53:37
In this episode, the boys take a closer look at the high-profile arrest of Ben Roberts-Smith — and ask the question many in policing are thinking: why was it done that way?…
Apr 10, 2026 · 51:42
This week, the Two Ordinary Cops step into one of the most talked-about and complex stories in Australia — the arrest of Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith. Drawing on…
Apr 3, 2026 · 1:36:26
Leadership in policing — everyone talks about it, but what actually makes a good leader? In this episode, the Two Ordinary Cops welcome back fan favourite Andy Bedwell for one of…
Mar 27, 2026 · 1:27:11
This week, the boys sit down with one of their closest mates and one of the best leaders they ever worked under — former Detective Sergeant Andy Bedwell. From the wild days of…
Mar 20, 2026 · 30:32
What really happens when substances like kava, cannabis, and alcohol take hold in remote communities? In this episode, the boys cut through the noise and misinformation to share…
Mar 13, 2026 · 1:26:59
In Episode 114, Schultzy and Damo sit down with retired Queensland police officer and long-time dog handler David Raymond, who spent 26 years in the dog squad after joining the…
Mar 6, 2026 · 40:53
In Episode 113, Schultzy and Damo kick things off with shout outs to members of the policing community who have reached out to the podcast, including former coppers who have sent…
Feb 27, 2026 · 1:04:26
What does a detective actually do? In this episode, we break down the reality behind plainclothes policing — where detectives came from, why they exist, and what it really takes…
Feb 20, 2026 · 1:14:40
In Episode 111, the boys sit down with serving Queensland Police Sergeant Jake Lacy for a genuine yarn about growing up on the Gold Coast, joining the police, and choosing the…
Feb 13, 2026 · 1:16:41
Every week we get asked the same question: “How do I join the police?” But the real question isn’t how — it’s why. In this episode, we break down what becoming a police officer…
Feb 6, 2026 · 1:14:39
What happens when NT bush coppers and Queensland country police work the same patch of dirt? You get chaos, camaraderie, and some cracking stories. In this episode we sit down…
Jan 30, 2026 · 40:06
We’re back answering your questions — from joining the AFP and life in the dog squad, to why bush policing can shape you into a better cop. We share stories about working with…
Jan 23, 2026 · 47:30
In this episode, we’re joined by Rebecca Dale, Queensland Police veteran and Games Manager for the Australasian Police & Emergency Services Games, to talk about what the Games…
Jan 20, 2026 · 1:04:24
After missing their first deadline in 105 episodes — thanks to a 250kg heifer flattening Damo’s wife — the Two Ordinary Cops are back on the mic. In this episode, Schultzy and…
Jan 9, 2026 · 30:57
After a disrupted start to the year, Schultzy and Damo reunite to reset and kick off 2026. This episode is driven by listener feedback following recent powerful episodes,…
Jan 2, 2026 · 33:38
In this episode, Schultzy flies solo while Damo takes some time out for family, and he dives into something deeply important. A huge thank you goes to Melanie Reid and Bonnie…
Dec 26, 2025 · 4:19
In this shorter-than-usual Boxing Day catch-up, the Two Ordinary Cops jump on quickly to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a safe New Year. With family time taking priority…
Dec 19, 2025 · 1:01:30
This week is another heavy one. In the wake of the Bondi tragedy, we pause to pay our respects to the victims and their families, and to acknowledge the first responders and…
Dec 12, 2025 · 1:01:27
In this deeply personal episode, Brett’s wife, Senior Constable Susan Forte, shares what it’s like to hear your husband’s final moments over the police radio and live through the…
Dec 5, 2025 · 1:01:04
In Part Three of our In Remembrance of Brett Forte series, Cath Nielsen takes us inside the coronial inquest and the fight for truth that followed Brett’s death. Cath reveals…
Nov 28, 2025 · 1:00:10
In Part Two of our In Remembrance of Brett Forte series, Cath Nielsen takes us through the immediate aftermath of the ambush — the shock, the confusion, and the heavy days that…
Nov 21, 2025 · 1:02:33
In this deeply personal and emotional first instalment of our In Remembrance of Brett Forte series, we sit down with Queensland police officer Cath Nielsen, the partner who sat…
Nov 14, 2025 · 1:13:58
Part 2 of our first-ever live show gets raw, real, and bloody funny. The crowd jumps in with questions—some from people looking to join the job—sparking honest advice not just…
Nov 14, 2025 · 1:04:56
Our first-ever live show! We’re at the Gold Coast Tavern with a rowdy crowd, reunited with our recruit-college “Mum” Di Gallo, swapping pink-slip memories, OC “party pack” war…
Nov 7, 2025 · 29:09
After seven huge weeks with Zach Rolfe, we’re back to basics—Two Ordinary Cops, eight jobs between us, and a candid debrief on where we’ve been and what’s coming. We unpack the…
Oct 31, 2025 · 2:01:01
In the powerful conclusion to the Zach Rolfe series, the questions come from you — the listeners — and the answers come straight from Zach himself. No scripts, no rehearsals,…
Oct 24, 2025 · 1:16:37
In the final part of the coronial series, Zach Rolfe lays it all bare — the evidence, the bias, and the fallout that followed. He recounts being torn apart on the stand, the…
Oct 17, 2025 · 1:17:59
In this fifth instalment of the Zach Rolfe series, Schultzy and Damo sit down with Zach as he unpacks what unfolded after his Supreme Court acquittal — the return to work, the…
Oct 10, 2025 · 1:17:12
The Two Ordinary Cops return for Part 4 of the Zac Rolfe series, diving into the tense lead-up to the Supreme Court trial and the five gruelling weeks that followed. From delayed…
Oct 3, 2025 · 1:15:33
In Part 3 of the Zac Rolfe series, we step into the moment everything changed—Rolfe’s arrest for murder. What followed raised difficult questions: was this an impartial…
Sep 26, 2025 · 59:13
In Part 2, Zac Rolfe takes us inside the events of 9 November 2019 in Yuendumu — the night that changed his life and shook policing across Australia. From the lead-up and…
Sep 19, 2025 · 1:24:56
In this first part of our three-part conversation with former NT Police Constable Zac Rolfe, we go behind the headlines to hear his story in his own words. From a privileged yet…
Sep 12, 2025 · 57:01
From listener shout-outs to cartonable offences that’ll make you shake your head, Schultzy and Damo dive into the good, the bad, and the downright funny side of policing life.…
Sep 5, 2025 · 1:37:21
When a call comes in for a body recovery and you’re dropped into shark-infested waters, most would tap out. Luke McCulloch dove straight in — literally. In this gripping episode,…
Aug 29, 2025 · 1:28:09
Episode 85 – Hypervigilance, Heartbreak, and Healing, Interview with Karlie Fleming dives deep into the hidden toll of frontline policing and intelligence work. Karlie shares her…
Aug 22, 2025 · 56:46
In this episode, Schultzy and Damo dive into the lifeline of every first responder – the radio. From the gut-wrenching moments of being outnumbered on a hostile job to the sheer…
Aug 15, 2025 · 50:04
In Episode 83 of Two Ordinary Cops, Schultzy and Damo take a step back from the front line and reflect on life after policing. From navigating the lingering effects of…
Aug 8, 2025 · 55:34
In this episode, Schultzy and Damo dive into the often-misunderstood world of the courtroom, exploring the complicated relationship between frontline policing, public perception,…
Aug 1, 2025 · 1:02:48
In this episode, Schultzy and Damo dive into the legalisation of OC spray in the NT, drawing on the real-life experiences of cops in Western Australia, where it’s already been…
Jul 25, 2025 · 51:35
In this episode, the Two Ordinary Cops shine a light on the unsung legends of policing — the police auxiliaries. From the calm voices behind the radio to the rock-solid support…
Jul 18, 2025 · 59:13
From growing up idolising his VicPol father to being arrested and acquitted twice, Jarrod Michael's story is one of grit, loss, redemption—and altitude. In this episode, the Two…
Jul 11, 2025 · 50:02
The coronial inquest into the death of Kumanjayi Walker has made headlines around the world — but was it really about the death, or about bringing down Zach Rolfe? In this…
Jul 4, 2025 · 1:06:03
In this episode, the Two Ordinary Cops sit down with a very special guest—Schultzy’s mum, Liz. From guarding evidence in the red dirt of the Northern Territory to cooking meals…
Jun 27, 2025 · 1:40:22
In this powerful episode, we sit down with former paratrooper and NSW police officer Nick White. From high-risk military service to frontline policing in some of the toughest…
Jun 20, 2025 · 2:18:02
The Two Ordinary Cops sit down with Ben Hosking — a former frontline cop turned tactical operator — for one of our rawest chats yet. Thrown into chaos straight out of the…
Jun 13, 2025 · 51:56
In Episode 74, the Two Ordinary Cops cover everything from snow in Hernani to sex dungeons in Kununurra. Damo and Schultzy reflect on the Northern Territory's move to legalise…
Jun 6, 2025 · 42:17
In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy dive into the complex topic of public respect for police — where it comes from, how it can be lost in a heartbeat, and…
May 30, 2025 · 40:41
In Episode 72 – Overseas Recruits, Overtime & the Price of a Carton, the Two Ordinary Cops dive into the real cost of life in the blue. From breaking down how junior cops can…
May 23, 2025 · 46:44
In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy dive deep into the tough conversations — from viral post turtle banter to the devastating reality behind police suicide…
May 16, 2025 · 1:04:50
In Episode 70 of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy break down the police rank structure from the ground up – starting with the everyday duties of a constable all the way to…
May 9, 2025 · 1:27:23
In this powerful episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy sit down with Queensland paramedic Peter Vinnicombe to explore the deep and lasting impact of frontline trauma.…
May 2, 2025 · 40:48
In Episode 68 of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy don’t hold back as they call out the worst of the worst—cops who broke the law and were rightly arrested and jailed by their…
Apr 25, 2025 · 49:26
This week, Damo and Schutzy aren’t holding back. They’re diving headfirst into one of the most talked-about—and misunderstood—topics in policing: corruption. Sure, the past has…
Apr 18, 2025 · 49:10
After throwing out a cheeky challenge to our listeners to either send us love or completely roast us, Damo and Schultzy were stoked to get almost 10 messages – with 4 of them…
Apr 11, 2025 · 38:57
In this episode, Damo and Schultzy dive into the evolving landscape of Family and Domestic Violence (FDV) procedures and legislation. With years of frontline experience between…
Apr 4, 2025 · 38:22
In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy sit down with Damo’s wife, Emer, to explore what it’s like being married to a cop—especially in remote communities. Rather…
Mar 28, 2025 · 50:25
In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Schultzy and Damo dive into the complex relationship between police and the courts, unpacking the differences between police bail and court…
Mar 21, 2025 · 46:16
In Episode 62 of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy dive into a critical issue raised by a recruit— the alarming drop in police recruitment standards. As passionate advocates…
Mar 14, 2025 · 36:35
In Episode 61 of the Two Ordinary Cops podcast, Cyclone Alfred, Schultzy and Damo recount their experiences during the landfall of Cyclone Alfred, sharing what unfolded in their…
Mar 7, 2025 · 45:00
In this episode, Schultzie and Damo chat about their weekend catch-up with police mates, give a shout-out to a listener joining Queensland Police, and dive into the controversy…
Feb 28, 2025 · 55:19
In this episode, Schultzy and Damo, the Two Ordinary Cops, dive into the world of complaints against police. While some are incredibly serious, others, in hindsight, are…
Feb 21, 2025 · 51:35
In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy kick off with some well-deserved shout-outs before taking a trip down memory lane, flipping through Damo’s old notebooks…
Feb 14, 2025 · 51:27
Ever had to call yourself on duty? The Two Ordinary Cops have – and they've got the stories to prove it. From breaking up a fight to dealing with a heated domestic and even…
Feb 7, 2025 · 46:53
In this episode, Damo and Schultzy dive into the world of emergency management—what it is, how it works, and why politicians often have little to no say when natural disasters…
Jan 31, 2025 · 55:33
What does it take to create a team that’s motivated, enthusiastic, and ready to get the job done? In this episode, Damo and Schultzy break down the challenges and rewards of…
Jan 24, 2025 · 42:56
In this episode, Schultzy and Damo dive into the topic of complacency in policing—how it creeps into the job, its impact on outcomes, and the lessons they've learned along the…
Jan 17, 2025 · 55:04
In this episode, Schultzy and Damo kick off with shout-outs and current events before discussing a facility created to support Emergency Services personnel with PTSD. They then…
Jan 10, 2025 · 56:00
In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, the hosts take listeners into the fascinating and high-stakes world of police negotiations. Damo shares insights into the specialised…
Jan 3, 2025 · 38:00
In this episode, the Two Ordinary Cops chat with Sergeant Adam Swift, who serves as both an instructor at the police college and the Vice President of the Northern Territory…
Jan 3, 2025 · 41:48
In this episode, the Two Ordinary Cops share their journey into the Northern Territory Police Force, discussing what motivated them to join and the experiences that shaped their…
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