We love podcast industry podcasts - there are a lot of them and they're run by smart, passionate people who live and breathe podcasting and who are usually industry professionals. Sometimes though, they don't give the day-to-day enthusiast, creator or indie podcaster a platform to have their say, often taking "the view from the top" as delivered by the "podcasting professionals". In & Around Podcasting has been designed to respect and live alongside those shows and to be an accessible, inclusive podcast for every single podcaster; a show that allows everyone with an interest in the medium to have a fair...
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Sep 29, 2026 · 1:09:35
Rob Walch returns from Podcast Movement NYC with a recap of the Terminal 5 venue, meetings with industry peers, Captivate’s new partnership with TWiT, and the presentation moment…
Sep 15, 2026 · 1:05:29
A successful podcast can still reach a point where its creator is ready to move on. Elsie Escobar and Rob Walch discuss Pat Flynn’s sale of Smart Passive Income, the audience…
Sep 1, 2026 · 58:35
What does a successful podcast launch look like when you do not have a large audience waiting? Elsie Escobar and Rob Walch answer a new podcaster’s question by moving the focus…
Aug 18, 2026 · 59:25
From reel-to-reel tape and cassette fast-forwarding to one-tap podcast controls, listeners have gained more power over what they hear and when they hear it. Elsie Escobar and Rob…
Aug 4, 2026 · 1:08:28
Elsie Escobar and Rob Walch break down two major developments in the industry: the release of the IAB's updated Podcast Metrics Guidelines version 2.3 - now open for public…
Jul 21, 2026 · 1:06:45
Fresh podcast industry research is out, and Elsie Escobar and Rob Walch break down what it means for podcasters. They kick things off by celebrating Captivate CEO Marc Asquith’s…
Jul 7, 2026 · 38:22
Elsie Escobar and Christabel Nsiah-Buadi champion the idea that your podcast episodes are a living archive that can evolve long after you hit publish. They discuss how dynamic…
Jun 23, 2026 · 45:53
Rob is joined by industry peers Dave Hamilton, Luke Slota, and Marques Pfaff to talk about the realities of podcast advertising. The group discusses the realistic download…
Jun 10, 2026 · 57:15
Elsie and Rob break down the recent 28% rise in podcast ad dollars and explain why tracking your income per download is a much better measure of success than looking at total…
May 26, 2026 · 1:07:36
This episode covers global trends, platform changes, and the momentum in the industry following The Podcast Show in London. Joined by Andreea Coscai, founder of Eurowaves, the…
May 19, 2026 · 50:02
Analyzing the high-profile fallout between Alex Cooper and Alix Earle and some of the drama, evaluating how business disputes masquerade as personal betrayal and some other drama…
May 5, 2026 · 41:31
This episode opens with a major industry shift: Tim Cook’s announcement that he is stepping down as CEO of Apple in September 2026. The team discusses the transition plan, the…
Apr 14, 2026 · 55:33
OpenAI recently acquired TBPN (Technology Business Programming Network). Rob and Elsie discuss the relationship between Sam Altman and TBPN’s John Coogan, the network's high…
Apr 1, 2026 · 52:23
Rob Walch and Elsie Escobar reunite to host together for the first time in 159 days! They look back at their own "episode 28" milestones from 2005 to 2014 and share stories from…
Jun 17, 2025 · 41:36
When it comes to podcasting, many indie creators (and some bigger ones, too) don't consider the legalities that might come up, especially since their podcast might start out as…
Jun 10, 2025 · 45:42
In this special bonus episode, Mark and Danny share their thoughts on The Podcast Show London - what worked, what didn't work, and some ideas for future shows. Links to…
Apr 29, 2025 · 1:01:47
With this year's Infinite Dial report from Edison Research now in the wild, and co-presented at Podcast Movement Evolutions in Chicago, it's the perfect time to have one of the…
Mar 4, 2025 · 49:31
As podcasting continues to see a mix of large investments and ad spend, it also continues to see layoffs across the industry. Many point to some of these large investments as…
Feb 18, 2025 · 50:25
The Podcasting 2.0 initiative has been around since 2020, and is a way for the traditional RSS feed to be more interactive both for podcasters and listeners. This means offering…
Feb 4, 2025 · 36:06
The episode provides an insightful recap of the recent PodFest event, a significant gathering in the podcasting industry, characterized by its inclusive atmosphere and focus on…
Jan 13, 2025 · 54:02
2024 saw Spotify make a big push for video on their platform, while it also seemed anywhere you turned online was someone telling podcasters they need to do video to stay…
Dec 11, 2024 · 13:13
Join Mark and Danny in this bonus episode, as they reflect on the past year of In & Around Podcasting, share some important advice about frequency of publishing, and what's…
Nov 19, 2024 · 51:20
There are many valuations of the podcast industry, depending on what report you read. Polaris valued the global worth at $13.7B in 2021, expected to grow an average of 31.5% CAGR…
Nov 5, 2024 · 41:51
As Artificial Intelligence continues to be ever more present in podcasting, discussions and conversations have appeared online at an equal rate on whether this is a good or bad…
Oct 9, 2024 · 58:28
It used to be that podcast downloads were the main data point podcasters would use to track their growth. The thinking was, get X amount of downloads per month and sponsors will…
Sep 3, 2024 · 50:38
In a recent article on Hollywood Reporter, top podcasters like Rachel Maddow, Bill Simmons, Josh Lindgren and more shared their take on the biggest issues facing podcasting.…
Aug 21, 2024 · 15:23
Apple Podcasts is now available on the web, opening up the Android market and allowing users to listen on Windows. This is a significant milestone for podcasting as it provides…
Aug 13, 2024 · 50:13
Currently, if a podcaster wants to get the full picture of their show's growth, they need to look at multiple analytics reports: their hosting company, Apple Podcasts, Spotify,…
Aug 8, 2024 · 47:03
Welcome to this bonus episode of In & Around Podcasting. This week, Mark and Danny take a look at this year's Podcast Movement, taking place in Washington, D.C. between August 19…
Jul 30, 2024 · 45:37
According to the most recent stats by the Podcast Index, there are 315,000 active podcasts (based on publishing at least one episode in the last 30 days), with 446,000 in the…
Jul 23, 2024 · 50:03
In episode 14, we discussed whether the V4V - Value4Value - model was dead , with a focus on streaming sats (Satoshis) since this is primarily what many podcasters associate V4V…
Jul 17, 2024 · 43:01
Welcome to a special bonus episode of In & Around Podcasting. This week, Mark and Danny are joined by guest co-host Garry Aylott, Head of Design at Captivate, to talk about the…
Jul 9, 2024 · 54:57
It was recently announced that Alby, one of the most popular streaming sats platforms for podcasters when using Value4Value (V4V), is no longer offering new accounts to people in…
Jun 19, 2024 · 46:49
In the June 3 edition of industry publication Podnews, editor James Cridland reported on the rumour of "a large podcast hosting company having an all-hands meeting with the news…
Jun 11, 2024 · 1:11:14
At the end of March this year, industry publication Podnews published its annual Podnews Report Card. This asks podcasters to complete a scorecard on podcast platforms, and where…
Jun 4, 2024 · 1:06:23
Spotify recently announced they're no longer offering the option to easily record and edit within the platforms's hosting dashboard, a popular feature that was part of podcast…
May 28, 2024 · 48:49
Show notes written by AI and not touched... to prove that we do only get 70% of the way there with AI... The episode features a review of the Podcast Show 2024, with discussions…
May 21, 2024 · 15:30
As the industry descends on the Podcast Show 2024 in London, UK, we take a look back at the first couple of months of In & Around Podcasting. We've covered a wealth of important…
May 15, 2024 · 35:18
We hear it on all the industry podcasts and publications/newsletters: YouTube is the preferred destination for podcast listeners/viewers (and let's not get into the whole "but…
May 7, 2024 · 47:56
In a recent article published by Mia Lobel , ex Head of Content at Pushkin Industries, she decries the CPM model in podcasting, and that "The CPM model of advertising does not —…
Apr 30, 2024 · 49:56
Spotify recently announced they've ceased their membership of the IAB (Interactive Advertising Bureau), which has long been seen as the standard for the podcast industry when it…
Apr 23, 2024 · 52:36
Many podcasts don't make it past episode five, according to new data from the Podcast Index. In this episode, Mark, Danny, Dave Jackson, and Ashley Hamer discuss the challenges…
Apr 16, 2024 · 49:54
In this episode, Danny, Sam Sethi, and Garry Aylott discuss the current state of podcasting apps and the recent closures of several apps. They explore the challenges faced by…
Apr 9, 2024 · 54:35
NOTE: Some of this audio is a little sketchy because it was recorded using some Bluetooth mics on site at Podcast Movement Evolutions 2024. Probably worth an upgrade... As the…
Apr 2, 2024 · 52:01
Let's explore the moral aspect of AI and the importance of maintaining human connection and authenticity in content creation. Takeaways Maintaining human connection and…
Mar 26, 2024 · 38:21
In this episode, Mark, Danny, Joe Casabona, and Daniel J. Lewis discuss the future of Podcasting 2.0 and its impact on the podcasting industry. They explore the challenges and…
Mar 19, 2024 · 41:34
“You can’t make money unless you have 10-20,000 downloads in the first 28 days”, and “you’re not serious podcaster if you’re not hitting those downloads, you’re just a hobbyist”…
Mar 4, 2024 · 21:23
In this bonus episode, Mark and Danny discuss the purpose and vision of the In and Around Podcasting show. They emphasize the importance of inclusivity and alternative viewpoints…
Mar 4, 2024 · 28:26
Want to sing along to the intro? We made you some lyric sheets! Download them here: https://www.inandaroundpodcasting.com/lyrics (no email required). It was essential to get the…
Mar 4, 2024 · 2:45
We love podcast industry podcasts - there are a lot of them and they're run by smart, passionate people who live and breathe podcasting and who are usually industry…
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