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Defending Ideas

Defending Ideas

Will AI kill us in 10 years? | Chris Koopman & Ford Copple

Defending Ideas · Sep 29, 2026 · 42:00

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Is AI really on track to destroy humanity, or are we confusing small risks with science fiction?

On this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn sits down with Chris Koopman, CEO of Abundance Institute, and Ford Copple, tech policy analyst at Sutherland Institute, to discuss the growing debate over AI safety, regulation, data centers, and technological innovation.

They look at one of the biggest questions surrounding AI: how seriously should we take predictions of catastrophe? Koopman and Copple say there is a difference between real criminal threats, like cyberattacks and scams, and doomsday scenarios that probably won't happen.

The conversation then explores the controversies over data centers. Copple explains what his research shows about construction jobs, permanent employment, and tax revenue, while Koopman discusses how communities can best evaluate the potential benefits of data center projects.

Dunn, Koopman, and Copple also explore AI regulation, energy demand, nuclear power, and how communities can make evidence-based decisions about rapidly changing technology without either ignoring legitimate concerns or allowing fear to dictate policy.

Defending Ideas is a weekly podcast produced by Sutherland Institute. On this show, we are committed to renewing the principles of common sense conservatism, making you a better champion of sound ideas. Visit defendingideas.org.

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