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Former Indiana Secretary of State Ed Simcox joins Abdul to talk about his new memoir, In the Room, and why the 2026 secretary of state's race feels like a rerun. The Bayh name back on the ballot, a 24-year GOP run in the governor's office, and a convention scramble headed to Fort Wayne — Simcox, who chaired 20 state conventions, explains why party endorsements can backfire and why 1,800 delegates won't be told how to vote. Grab a cigar and a club soda. Watch for Rod Serling.
