The window of opportunity for designers — Dive Club 🤿

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There's a parallel I'm noticing between what's happening today with AI and what happened way back in 2013.

So this episode studies the early days of Snapchat, the emergence of high-fidelity prototyping tools, and answers the question “what does it look like to have agency in 2025?”

Jack Brody (Chief Product Officer at Suno)
Jorn van Dijk (CEO of Framer)
Julius Tarng (Research engineer at Anthropic)
Tuhin Kumar (Head of Design at Luma AI)
Maheen Sohail (Gen AI at Meta)
Meng To (Founder of Design+Code)