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Talking Billions with Bogumil Baranowski

Talking Billions with Bogumil Baranowski

Vitaliy Katsenelson on Investing Amid Extreme Uncertainty: Survival First. Returns Second (Excess Returns Pod)

Talking Billions with Bogumil Baranowski · Mar 13, 2026 · 1:12:12

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I join Matt Zeigler for one more special episode of Excess Returns. Available now on Excess Returns Podcast and Talking Billions. 🎧

I’m excited to share this episode with you—it’s reposted here with permission and blessing from both Matt and Jack. Don’t miss it! And follow their work, links below.

[Vitaliy was on TB before, scroll down to find the episode, it's very different, but equally worthwhile. Enjoy!]

In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski speak with Vitaliy Katsenelson, CEO of Investment Management Associates and author of Soul in the Game. The conversation explores how value investing is evolving in a world shaped by artificial intelligence, rapidly changing economic dynamics, and historically high market valuations. Vitaliy discusses why humility and diversification are increasingly important for investors today, how to balance quality and valuation when selecting stocks, and what he has learned about selling decisions, portfolio construction, and long-term investing discipline. The discussion also moves beyond markets into deeper ideas about passion, creativity, and why investing, like art, is ultimately a creative pursuit driven by curiosity and lifelong learning.
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