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How to ACTUALLY Avoid Burnout with Marie-Hélène Pelletier

Big Swings Only · Sep 24, 2026 · 53:28

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You already know resilience matters. But what if everything you think about it is incomplete?

In this episode, Kwame Christian sits down with Dr. Marie-Hélène Pelletier — psychologist, executive coach, and author of The Resilience Plan — to break down why resilience isn't just a trait you either have or don't, and it's not just a muscle you build through grit alone. It's a strategy. One you can actually sit down and plan.

Marie-Hélène opens with a harrowing story from an 8-day mountain traverse in the Canadian Rockies — a river crossing gone wrong that nearly swept her away — and uses it to unpack a truth most high performers miss: we're great on "day one," when we're fresh and energized. The real risk shows up on "day eight," when we're depleted, still making decisions like we're at full strength.



If you're someone chasing big goals and refusing to slow down, this episode will change how you think about what's sustainable — and give you a real framework to build on.



Connect with Marie-Hélène

theresilienceplan.com

LinkedIn: Marie-Hélène Pelletier, PhD, MBA



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