Veronique de Rugy on the Impending American Fiscal Crisis

Veronique de Rugy is the George Gibbs Chair in Political Economy and a Senior Research Fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. In Veronique's first appearance on Macro Musings she discusses her career as a think tanker's think tanker, what the difference is between classical liberals and libertarians, how America's mindset has shifted on trade and immigration, the fiscal health of the United States, the US's impending debt crises, solutions for fixing the fiscal health of the United States, and much more.

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Recorded on November 18th, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:18 - Vero's Career

00:17:35 - Vero's Career

00:24:32 - Fiscal Policy at Mercatus

00:40:59 - Steps Toward a Sustainable Fiscal Path 

00:48:34 - Flattening the Debt Curve

00:59:13- Outro