The 2028 Primary Has Begun (with Ezra Klein)

Ezra Klein, Abundance author, New York Times opinion columnist, and host of “The Ezra Klein Show,” joins Offline to lay out his vision of how Democrats can stop squandering their power—in the primaries, in foreign affairs, and in the face of society-altering AI. As presidential hopefuls begin hiring staff, making calls, and visiting states, Jon and Ezra identify a North Star for debates, political priorities, and most importantly: how to enact change quickly…without sacrificing the unity Democrats achieved this November.

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