Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast: Agile storytelling from the trenches
Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast: Agile storytelling from the trenches · Sep 15, 2026 · 16:23
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"Whenever we almost started to achieve norming, we went back to storming." - Deborah Colombari
Deborah shares the story of a team of about twelve developers and QA specialists that kept losing people one by one. The early signal was not a technical problem. It was turnover. A toxic direct leader created pressure, blame, and snarky responses whenever the team tried to explain what was happening. Because that leader's own manager behaved the same way, Deborah saw a reinforced pattern rather than an isolated personality problem. The team could not stabilize. Every time it moved toward norming, someone left or someone new arrived, sending the team back into storming. Knowledge walked out the door with the people who left, delivery dates slipped, morale dropped, and a fixed-date call center project was eventually canceled. Deborah's story is a sharp systems thinking reminder for Scrum Masters: sometimes the problem is not inside the team. The team may be showing the symptoms of a system that punishes honesty, overloads people, and teaches them that leaving is safer than speaking.
In this segment, we talk about Russell Ackoff , his systems thinking interview with Haynes Media Works , and the Tuckman model .
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