Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast: Agile storytelling from the trenches
Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast: Agile storytelling from the trenches · Aug 7, 2026 · 10:46
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The Great Product Owner: The Co-Leader Who Mastered the PO StancesRead the full Show Notes and search through the world's largest audio library on Agile and Scrum directly on the Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast website: http://bit.ly/SMTP_ShowNotes .
"Co-leadership means both sharing leadership in a lateral way, not a disciplinary way—the PO owns the technical part, the Scrum Master the organizational part." - Havva Sevay
Havva's best Product Owner already understood co-leadership—and went further. He used the Product Owner stances from Scrum.org as a feedback tool, asking the team to rate him on each stance (customer representative, company representative, and so on) with a percentage, then using that input to improve his skills deliberately. It's the same mindset Scrum Masters can adopt with their own stances: be aware of the options, get honest feedback, and adapt to the context, because the right stance changes over time. A great PO, in Havva's experience, treats their role as a skill set to be developed in partnership—not a title to defend.
Self-reflection Question: Could the PO stances become
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