'Nocturne' Ep. 3 + 'Book of Mormon', 'Blue Ruin', and New York Docs

Victor and Darren discuss episode three of Apple TV+ thriller Nocturne, noting its popularity and strong ratings while debating the show’s stylish direction, confusing mysteries (The Sandman, symbols, missing Felicia, Jurick’s hidden stash), and frustrations with implausible plot mechanics; they agree the series works best with more Steven Graham and hope for clearer answers as the season continues. Before that, Darren recaps seeing The Book of Mormon with his wife and 16-year-old son on an Australian tour, praising its fast pace and boundary-pushing humor, and they compare it to other musicals and a failed Beetlejuice tour. They also talk Jeremy Saulnier’s Blue Ruin (and related films), a Shudder thriller The Cycle (recommended blind), John Wilson’s A History of Concrete and New York’s cultural shifts, plus quick reactions to Wild Horse 9 and Godzilla Minus Zero, and they consider sampling Apple’s heist series 12 12 12.

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00:00 Podcast Intro and Nocturne Buzz

00:39 Book of Mormon Night Out

03:28 Touring Shows and Beetlejuice Flop

05:15 Blue Ruin Deep Dive

10:58 Saulnier Themes and Next Films

14:43 Shudder Surprise The Cycle

17:37 John Wilson Concrete and Old New York

26:01 Wild Horse 9 McDonagh Review

29:24 Godzilla Minus Zero Theater Blast

33:56 Finally Nocturne Episode 3

35:26 Missing Steven Graham

36:53 Supernatural Teases

37:20 Spoiler Talk Setup

37:56 Sandman Reveal Ending

38:52 Horror Cold Open Debate

41:39 Car Crash Mystery

43:04 Who Is Sandman

46:01 Carl Under Jurek Spell

48:51 Jurek Secret Build

51:09 Prison Setup Questions

52:49 Necklace Hack Nonsense

56:43 Episode Count Update

57:15 Apple Heist Pick

01:00:07 Final Thoughts Next Week

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