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In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon, a retired forensic psychologist and author. In his new book, That Beast Was Not Me, Dr. Smalldon recalls the five decades he has spent corresponding with and and studying serial killers, mass murders and spree killers. Jeffrey also shares his origin story; the unsolved brutal murder of two of his colleagues, Patricia Matix and Joyce McFadden.
This episode was previously published on Crawlspace on November 23rd, 2025.
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