Andrew gives his own view of the ancient builders, and the conversation with Nikkiana Jones turns to inverted nubs, indentations and zipper-like marks cut into stone. In this third part, Phil and Andrew also explain why they doubt the geopolymer theory and look at strange carvings on a cliff in Iran.
Andrew says he is on the fence between an Atlantean-type civilization and an off-world origin, and suggests the world may have been a very different, even alien-looking place back then. Phil talks about ancient sky-watching, and the group discusses the long grooves found in India and Egypt that are often explained as tool-sharpening marks. Nikki voices her frustration that mainstream education ignores these features, and Phil, who says archaeology and funding go hand in hand, recalls his daughter's homework about Christopher Columbus. They look at inverted nubs and indentations, zipper-like cuts in India, Japan and Egypt, and Phil explains why he thinks geopolymer cannot account for stone carved from a whole mountain. Phil also mentions working toward mineralogy testing of nub samples collected by a Russian research team. The part closes in Iran, with nubs high on a cliff face and a relief of two horsemen passing a circular hallmark, where Phil points to a damaged line he reads as a technology mistake, and to a matching motif on the Nahal Mishmar crown. These are the speakers' own observations and theories, not established fact.
Highlights:
- Andrew on why he's on the fence about who the ancient builders were
- The grooves often called tool-sharpening marks
- Inverted nubs, indentations and zipper-like cuts from India to Japan
- Why Phil doubts the geopolymer theory
- A cliff relief in Iran and the "screwed up" horses' feet
Chapters:
00:00 Andrew is on the fence
01:11 Watching the stars
02:03 Grooves and tool-sharpening marks
04:08 Why the mainstream seems to look away
05:15 Phil's daughter's Columbus homework
06:40 Inverted nubs and indentations
10:16 Is it geopolymer?
12:22 Mineralogy samples from Russia
13:05 Nubs on a cliff in Iran
15:05 Two horsemen and a circular hallmark
16:26 Hathor and the Nahal Mishmar crown
16:54 The horses' feet
This is an archival replay, not current news. Original YouTube publish date: September 23, 2021. Source timestamps: 0:37:26.600–0:55:02.600. Full conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1c1nQNUIs
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Phil of The Ancient Alternative View channel and Andrew of Ancient History Criticisms channel talk about the anomalies that are hiding in plain site all over the worlds oldest ruins. There are threads that can be found in almost every sites from multiple different cultures, for example; nubs, pinch holes, inverted indentions, zipper shape, the stepped motifs, scrap marks, etc.
What went on in our past that we do not truly know about? There are obvious things that are just staring us in the face and these guys are tackling in it a new, honest and critical way!
Check them out and send them any photos you have of anywhere that needs to be added to the lists!
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