Dan Stevens and Andrew Finck question whether cave paintings are as old as we're told, and why a traumatic event might be hidden in plain sight in the symbols around us. Listen for the squatter-man petroglyphs, Woodhenge and Stonehenge, and the argument that history should be investigated like a crime scene.
The group suggests the high quality of cave art may mean survivors sheltered in caves rather than early humans slowly learning to paint, and discusses Dave Talbot's "squatter man," an Aboriginal moon story, Robin Heath's work on Woodhenge and Stonehenge, the "fifth sun," Nazca and Monte Albán. They ask whether humanity is food, a zoo or a prison planet, and connect serpent and caduceus symbolism with memory loss after trauma, using an abuse analogy. They also cover Tina's theory that the pyramids are bedrock spoil, the Serapeum, the eye on money, and cathedrals compared with pyramids. The guests describe the colonization of Aboriginal Australians as a pattern of conquest and diluted bloodlines, and Dan argues that fashion-forecasting colours from WGSN and a Guardian piece on PPE colours anticipated the pandemic and Ukraine events (the original recording refers to "2020" and the then-recent pandemic). The segment ends on the idea that repeated end-of-the-world stories keep reopening an old wound. These are the speakers' own views and interpretations, not established facts.
Content note: this segment includes discussion of genocide, colonial violence and a brief child-abuse analogy.
This is an archival replay, not current news. Original YouTube publish date: April 11, 2022. Source timestamps: 0:41:48.200–1:02:13.450. Full conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DBg7auoK_k
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