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The Arise Podcast

The Arise Podcast

Season 7, Episode 4: Jenny McGrath, Rebecca Walston and Danielle S Castillejo on Elections

The Arise Podcast · Oct 2, 2026 · 44:47

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Patriarchal bargaining, belonging, and complicity
Jenny | 14:55
“They were preserving themselves in the male dominated space of, if I call this out, then I'm going to be ostracized, exiled, whatever. And so all of it then becomes this performance of bargaining to continue to try to get power in proximity to patriarchy and white patriarchy.”
Rebecca | 16:45
“Is it that we need to have a better conversation about power in general and not just the people who are at the center of it, but the people who are in proximity to it and what we're willing to do to stay there, or is there something unique about how that power manifests in white male circles that is distinct?”
Danielle | 18:03
“The anger was that he got caught. Not that he actually messed up. There was not a sense of remorse, but in the meeting, this is a person that would say all the right things, try to do all the right things in a group sense. But when leaving that place, after having been told, ‘Don't do X or please do X,’ literally goes and does their own entire thing.”
 

Well, first I guess I would have to believe that there was or is an actual political dialogue taking place that I could potentially be a part of. And honestly, I'm not sure that I believe that.

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