#1332 Cara Ocobock: Trans People in Sports

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Dr. Cara Ocobock is Associate Professor and Director of the Human Energetics Laboratory at the University of Notre Dame. Her research program integrates human biology and anthropology, with a focus on the interaction between anatomy, physiology, evolution, and the environment. She explores the physiological and behavioral mechanisms necessary to cope with and adapt to extreme climate and physical activity. Dr. Ocobock’s research is at the intersection of metabolic physiology, evolution, culture, and behavior.

In this episode, we talk about trans women in women’s sports. We start by distinguishing between sex and gender, and talking about sex differences in athletic ability. We discuss whether it is fair for trans women to compete against cis women, the cases of Caster Semenya and Imane Khelif, and testosterone levels. We also discuss whether there really is a history of trans people dominating women’s sports, and the debate surrounding fairness and human rights. We then talk about the Olympic Committee ruling based on an SRY gene test, people with differences of sexual development, and why people do not care about trans men in sports. Finally, we talk about how transphobic people do not really care about women’s sports, and how we can really improve women’s sports.

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