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The Immigration Lawyers Podcast | Discussing Visas, Green Cards & Citizenship: Practice & Policy

The Immigration Lawyers Podcast | Discussing Visas, Green Cards & Citizenship: Practice & Policy

#496 AI, the ABS Model & the Future of Immigration Practice with Jeff Joseph, Esq.

The Immigration Lawyers Podcast | Discussing Visas, Green Cards & Citizenship: Practice & Policy · Oct 4, 2026 · 21:38

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What happens when a law firm has no partners, every lawyer owns shares, and AI prepares the first draft of the petition? In Episode #496 of The Immigration Lawyers Toolbox Podcast, John Q. Khosravi, Esq. talks with Jeff Joseph, Esq., past AILA President and now President of Immigration Strategy at Manifest Law, about how the firm is changing the business of immigration practice. Jeff explains Manifest's two-part structure: a technology company, Manifest OS, and a separate law firm whose attorneys own shares in it. The company raised about $72 million in its Series A at a valuation of over $750 million. He also covers the ABS model, why immigration was the strategic choice, how AI reviews filings and cut human error rates by 15%, the plan to expand into removal defense and family immigration, and what solo and small firms need to do to stay competitive over the next 2 to 3 years.

 

Timestamps

00:00 Opening

00:33 Intro

03:05 Welcome Jeff Joseph, Esq.

03:11 From his own firm to BAL to Manifest

03:37 What is Manifest Law?

04:46 Two companies, one mission: Manifest OS and the law firm

05:28 Attorney-led marketing

06:23 How Manifest attorneys earn: salary, origination and production credits

07:11 Two disruptions: AI and the ABS model

07:55 Why Manifest chose immigration

08:41 W-2 vs. 1099: B2C and B2B attorneys

09:31 Inside the technology: an H-1B case walkthrough

11:01 Is USCIS using AI too?

11:12 ILT Community and Constellation

12:58 AI reduced human error by 15%

13:21 Jeff's role: President of Immigration Strategy

13:59 Growth strategy heading into 2027

15:02 Expanding into removal defense and family

15:14 How cancellation of removal compares to an O-1

16:33 EOIR and ICE attorneys are using AI in court

16:50 Will Manifest license its technology?

17:22 The next 2 to 3 years for solo and small firms

18:28 Guardrails, and letting AI take the work lawyers hate

19:32 Stepping away from case work

20:07 Immigration practice keeps reinventing itself

20:51 How to connect with Jeff

21:21 Outro

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