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The Immigration Lawyers Podcast | Discussing Visas, Green Cards & Citizenship: Practice & Policy

The Immigration Lawyers Podcast | Discussing Visas, Green Cards & Citizenship: Practice & Policy

#498 Decades Inside DHS, DOS & the Visa Bulletin with Nicholas Perry, Esq.

The Immigration Lawyers Podcast | Discussing Visas, Green Cards & Citizenship: Practice & Policy · Oct 12, 2026 · 32:21

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What really happens on the other side of the immigration system? In Episode 498, John Q. Khosravi, Esq. sits down with Nicholas Perry, Esq., a former government attorney who has worked at nearly every corner of the immigration bureaucracy: INS, ICE, USCIS, DHS Office of the General Counsel, EOIR and the State Department Visa Office. Nick shares what it was like to write the STEM OPT regulations, why the 2017 travel ban rollout was chaos from the inside, how the Dates for Filing chart came to life in the Visa Bulletin, and why TRIG exemptions are one of the most underused tools in immigration law. If you've ever wondered how the policies you deal with every day actually get made, this one is for you.

 

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Opening

00:33 Intro

01:21 Immigration Lawyers Toolbox Magazine

02:33 The new ILT Chrome extension

04:12 Meet Nicholas Perry, Esq.

05:03 From tour guide to congressional immigration caseworker

06:02 First job at EOIR

06:45 INS attorney in San Francisco and El Paso during 9/11

07:31 ICE and USCIS national security work

07:57 Seven years at DHS Office of the General Counsel

09:07 Writing the STEM OPT regulations

09:33 How a regulation actually gets made

11:03 Public charge, H-2A, H-2B and EB-5 rules

12:33 The new I-864 and skipping notice and comment

13:04 Working in the State Department Visa Office

13:47 The 2017 travel ban from the inside

15:42 Administrative processing and security advisory opinions

17:11 ILT Community and Constellation

18:37 Nebraska Service Center years

19:43 Changing administrations and early retirement

21:12 Launching Perry Immigration Law

22:36 How the Visa Bulletin works behind the scenes

23:55 Creating the Dates for Filing chart

25:58 How policy decisions reach the Visa Bulletin

26:46 TRIG and Iranian cases

27:25 What TRIG covers under INA 212(a)(3)(B)

28:33 TRIG exemptions and why they're underused

30:58 Final thoughts and how to reach Nick

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